

Just a quick entry wishing everyone a joyous & amorous Valentine’s Day. It's 'holidays’ like this one make me think it’s high time for another confectionary thread. And it’s also a chance to parrot music bulletin boards across the web in soliciting recommendations for romantic sounds. What are the albums & tunes guaranteed to send hearts a’racing & garters to the bedpost?
Posted by derek on February 14, 2006 6:54 AMCannibal Corpse - The Bleeding
Posted by: al at February 14, 2006 8:00 AMYeah, the corpse thing seems definitely to get womanfolk in the mood for some reason, but in my (admittedly limited) experience a better bet might be either the Faure or the Brahms Requiem.
Not sure why....
Posted by: walto at February 14, 2006 9:13 AMIf you've only got time for a quickie, I suggest
Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell "You're All I Need to Get By". Time it right and you should get off bang on time with Marvin. If you're going middle distance, try Isaac Hayes "Light My Fire" from Live at the Sahara Tahoe. If you're both two stoned to move, try Tony Conrad and Faust. If you're dating a real monster, Metal Machine Music.
The Ran Blake on ESP always gets the juices flowing, if you know what I mean...
I've actually had good luck with Archie Shepp "Black Gipsy" ("you, sir, are in violation of a contract...") and also Jacques Coursil "Black Suite."
Posted by: clifford at February 14, 2006 11:10 AMI really like Passion by Peter Gabriel.
Posted by: Dana at February 14, 2006 12:56 PMNo question about it:
"Black Saint and the Sinner Lady", followed or preceeded by "MIngus Plays Piano".
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=20746
Apparently AAJ has us beat once again!
Posted by: clifford at February 14, 2006 1:26 PMAstor Piazzolla - Tango: Zero Hour or The Laussanne Concert
But Damon's pick is pretty good too.
In certain special situations it can help to read the liner notes out loud by Mingus' clinical psycologist. However, if Don Butterfield playing contrabass trombone as well as two tubas at once can't help you, nothing can.
Posted by: Damon Smith at February 14, 2006 1:53 PMSerge Gainsbourg.
And anything Mr. Stan Getz played should lead to an elevated experience....
Apparently AAJ has us beat once again!
Maybe it’s just my Bags pride talkin’, but since when has AAJ beaten us in the past? Those repackaged Plays for Lovers comps from Fantasy are all pretty good from what I gather. I have promos of the first batch pressed before the Concord merger & found them all solid spins for the car.
On the Fantasy/Prestige tip, I’ve actually done well with Ammons’ Gentle Jug and Davis’ Gentle Jaws: something about the big lusty tone of the tenor sexophone in those two dudes’ hands that always seems to make the ladies melt. And if the parents are home, Paul Desmond’s decent for light petting on the couch.
I’m with Dana too, back in college Passion worked like a champ.
Posted by: derek at February 14, 2006 2:24 PMI find that music is usually a distraction to the main event, but Miles' "Right Off" is a good soundtrack, if you need one.
Posted by: Phil at February 14, 2006 3:07 PMPhil Minton: A Doughnut in One Hand.
Posted by: Andrew Cox at February 14, 2006 3:17 PM[QUOTE]Astor Piazzolla - Tango: Zero Hour[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly.
For melting deliquescent romantic smooch-ola stuff, much of ASTRAL WEEKS works (you just kinda have to skip "Madame George"... maybe...)
I always liked that super-breathy Ike Quebec bossa nova "cash-in" LP on Blue Note. Tasty Kenny Burrell on there, too.
Well the obvious choice for me (and countless others over the years, I'd presume) would be "Köln concert"...But it may be more fun something like "Up with Donald Byrd" (there's a good Verve two album set that couples it with a Grant Geen one) or "Accent on the blues" by Big John Patton (with James Blood Ulmer in funky mode)...
Posted by: gerardo alejos at February 14, 2006 4:01 PMWelcome to Bagatellen, Gerardo.
Thanks for mentioning those Patton/Ulmer albums, prime sides of forward-thinking soul jazz & oop if I'm not mistaken. Gonna go dig 'em up now & give 'em spins.
Posted by: derek at February 14, 2006 5:54 PM"Phil Minton: A Doughnut in One Hand."
- I can see it working in select circumstances, I'd still opt for the duo with Günter Christmann. By the way, the new Christmann cds "Vario 41" and "Mal Du Archive 2" are amazing in terms of performances and packaging.
you can see them at the links below.
The vario cd package is a play on Joseph Beuys' felt postcard multiple.
http://efi.group.shef.ac.uk/labels/explico/explico13.html
http://efi.group.shef.ac.uk/labels/explico/explico14.html
Interesting choices all around - Phil Minton! There's someone that truly rocks! [I'm surprised nobody so far has mentioned Bob Ostertag's "Say No More"?!]
I prefer to start my date with Isaac Hayes "Hot Buttered Soul" for starters, then I'll move on to Minnie Ripperton ["Come to My Garden" or just about anything else really will do fine, thank you], then a short stop with Marvin [anything with Tammi Terrell], then maybe a quick detour over to Sonny Sharrock's "Guitar" and I'll cap it all off with Sun Ra's "Jazz in Silhouette" or "Super-Sonic Jazz" [or maybe even the duo with Walt Dickerson "Visions"]...and then it's off to never-never land of sound sleep.
Posted by: Tom Sekowski at February 14, 2006 7:14 PM"By the way, the new Christmann cds "Vario 41" and "Mal Du Archive 2" are amazing in terms of performances and packaging.
you can see them at the links below."
But where can they be ordered ?
I got mine from one of the musicians. he only had a few so I'd try the label. from the EFI page:
edition explico
edition explico, Weserweg 38, D-30851 Langenhagen, Germany; tel/fax: +49 511 732936; e-mail: edition.explico.music.art@web.de.
Small (less than 20 recordings improvised music label run by Günter Christmann and Elke Schipper. Several of the releases have been limited editions, some on CD-R and two have been co-released (one each) with the labels Blue Tower and concepts of doing. Wide ranging inclusion of musicians with: Christmann, John Butcher, Evan Parker, Mats Gustafsson, Paul Lovens, Fred Van Hove Boris Baltschun and Serge Baghdassarians.
Damn, and I thought this was going to be a Beefeater thread. Hard(DC)ore, baby.
Posted by: Jason at February 15, 2006 5:43 AMWord up, Jason.
Although, I have to say--having seen Beefeater a dozen times back in the day--there were few bands less romantic!
Posted by: Reuben Radding at February 15, 2006 6:37 AMThanks for the welcome, Derek! And yeah, the Patton/Ulmer/Marvin Cabell/Leroy Williams band rocked. I only have the "Accent on the blues" LP, I haven't heard the second one "Memphis to New York Spirit". Here are the deatils of thos sessions:
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Quarter/7055/Ulmer/Disko-ulmer.htm#%202
Oh and re-reading the comments herein, it might be cool to try out the recent "Be Music, Night" by Brötzmann's Chicago Tentet. Brötz = Cupid? :-)
Posted by: gerardo alejos at February 15, 2006 11:35 AMMost memorable fuckfest I ever had with music was to Pangaea, side one. Oh, and Beefheart's "I'm Gonna Booglarize Ya, Baby." I guess that's not very romantic, though.
Posted by: djll at February 15, 2006 12:42 PMReuben, I grew up in D.C. and I agree completely. I still love their records (need to pick them up on disc eventually) and they seem unjustly forgotten. Songs like "Reagonomics" capture a particular moment for me: Dischord kids riding around town on bikes, wearing "Meese is a Pig" t-shirts. Ah, youth.
Posted by: Jason at February 15, 2006 4:59 PMGerardo, the cd versions of those Patton sessions add roughly another album's worth of material (each is in the 60:00 range). They used to be available fairly cheaply through joints like half.com. I'm with you all the way: rocking, resiliently grooving stuff.
Ditto word on Beefeater, kind of a D.C. Minutemen in a way (Bird's funky slap bass aping Watt & the strong politico bent).
Hey, Jason (or anyone else for that matter), have you heard MacKaye's recent project The Evens? Curious about your take.
Posted by: derek at February 16, 2006 6:09 AMDerek, I was being facetious. Bags and AAJ aren't in competition, you know that!
Forgot all about Beefeater, whom I only vaguely remember. I was more of an Embrace/Rites of Spring kid, though I think the only Dischord records I have anymore are Hoover and Lungfish.
Posted by: clifford at February 16, 2006 11:05 PMClifford - I was more of a Fugazi fanatic myself, though I'd never quite got the gist of the "straight-edge" shit that was goin' down in DC at that time....but since I can remember, I've been addicted to Bad Brains [though it's a shame Canada Customs didn't allow HR to cross the border, which caused a lot of unnecessary show cancellations]. Isn't Gil Scott-Heron from DC too? If so, sign me up on his presidental ticket!
Posted by: Tom Sekowski at February 17, 2006 5:11 AMI thought Beefeater was a chain of restaurants or one of those curious gentlemen at the Tower Of London until I discovered Bagatellen..
Posted by: Dan Warburton at February 17, 2006 7:00 AMIt’s also a decent middle-of-the-road gin. ;)
Right on, Clifford, my indignation above was purely in jest too. Though it might be fun to throw down the gauntlet on a rugby challenge with the blokes over at AAJ. They may have the numbers, but we’ve got Brian “Bruiser” Marley in the ranks.
Posted by: derek at February 17, 2006 8:18 AMMad props for Bad Brains from my corner too, though as I understand it HR’s a bit of a jackass (the whole homophobic bent of some of the band’s later lyrics arising from his strict interpretations of Rastafarian texts- vague visions of a certain feline Mr. Stevens dancing through my brain pan). No arguments on the almighty power of Dr. Know, Daryl Jennifer and Earl Hudson though- power trio doesn’t even begin to describe their potency. I only saw them once (in Tucson) w/ HR to aged to engage in his signature back flips, but still loved every minute of the show. “Pay to Cum” and “At the Movies” being personal faves.
Straight edge gist (as I understand it): no drinking, no smoking, no drugs, no fucking. Pretty straight-forward. Tom, have you checked out that line of legit Fugazi concert discs available thru Dischord? I’ve been curious about them, but never took the plunge on specific dates.
Posted by: derek at February 17, 2006 8:32 AMWell, straight edge as it was understood in the har(dc)ore scene is pretty well articulated in the old Minor Threat song of the same name (which Derek sums up well).
I'm, alas, a couple three years too young to have seen either Minor Threat or Bad Brains live (I wasn't that cool when I was 12 or 13). So I really came of age with RoS, Embrace, Marginal Man, 9353, Kingface, Dag Nasty, et. al. Later on, when I was playing around the city with my own bands, it seemed like there was a real revitalization that had begun with Fugazi. A lot of the bands that cropped up in the late 80s/early 90s - like Shudder to Think, for example - were really great. The Brains, to me, are one of the greatest rock bands of all time. I say this without an ounce of doubt.
My fave Fugazi shows, by the way, haven't yet been reissued. I remember one from June 1991 in the basement of St. Stephens Church, where they shared the bill with No Means No and The Ex. One of the best rock shows ever.
By the way, D, haven't heard the Evens yet.
Posted by: Jason at February 17, 2006 10:21 AMJason, not sure if we ever crossed paths in DC. I left in late '88.
I was just old enough to see Minor Threat and the Bad Brains...
Posted by: Reuben Radding at February 17, 2006 12:55 PMDerek / Jason - Actually, I know what the straight-edge moto was and all...I'm old enough to have attended those shows [Bad Brains, Fugazi, HR, etc.]...thing is, I just didn't actually "get" the motivation to adhere to their strict, restrictive regiment.
Derek - as for the live Fugazi discs, I'd not heard any. In fact, I wasn't even aware that Dischord released legit live CDs from Fugazi.
Jason - I second your vote. NoMeansNo were one of the best live bands in their time. [From what I hear, they're still out there, playing live...Canuck version of The Ex, I guess.]
http://www.fugaziliveseries.com/
(looks like they're up to 30 volumes(!))
Posted by: derek at February 18, 2006 7:57 PMLeg o' Brut
Posted by: Michael Schaumann at March 13, 2006 7:08 PMYou mean leg o'lamb?
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